Panty checks! Papers at the bathroom door!

No. Nothing is going to allow panty checks, or violate the Fourth Amendment (which doesn’t even apply), or require papers at the bathroom door! The ‘gender identity’ legislation we are talking about, and have cited to, is relevant to civil rights causes of action fordiscrimination.

In most states it is not a crime, or even a statutory violation, to enter the bathroom designated for the sex opposite one’s own. This will not change.

No one can stop you from using whatever sex-segregated facility you want. We are simply arguing that no one should have an actionable right in court to claim that ‘gender identity’ discrimination trumps sex in sex-segregated spaces without some serious gating on the definition of ‘gender identity.’


3 Comments on “Panty checks! Papers at the bathroom door!”

  1. LeeAlani says:

    Elizabeth, you bad, bad girl! You know, you probably just broke some guy’s heart who was really looking forward to a panty check! LOL

    Seriously, though, I was reading elsewhere in which it was claimed that you and Cathy sent the UN a letter denying the rights of transsexuals, basically insisting they’re not women. I’ve read your letter, several times, and although I’m not a lawyer, I didn’t see that position in the text. Instead, I saw that you accepted those who are actually transitioning into women’s spaces. Sigh, and those within the transgender community wonder why women of transsexual history want to stay away from all of this B.S. We get crap from multiple sides, the religious right, who considers us an abomination, violating God’s law and the transgenders who want to use us for their own political ends. Out of the one side of their mouth they want to use our medical situations as evidence of the need for all transgenders to access women only spaces, but at the same time, they complain against and show contempt for post-ops, saying surgery was unnecessary for me, so I don’t think you should be able to do it either. No amount of surgery will make you a “real” woman. They bitch about post-transsexuals leaving the transgender “community.” Feminists and the “women born women” crowd will never accept you! No matter what you claim about yourself, you are transgender, and will be that way forever, and on and on.

    Well, 1st of all, women born transsexual, were always women and never men, with respect to their brain wiring. So in that sense, they are definitely women born women. Do all women accept them as women, no. Yes, there are women who don’t accept the concept of brain sex, as I believe they fear it’s just another tool for men to justify male superiority. However, many of those same women go on to refer to this or that as “male thinking” or “male karma,” which is a bit ironic, don’t you think, for someone claiming brain sex doesn’t exist. The life of a transsexual forces them to face something the majority of the world doesn’t see, including obviously most transgenders. The existence of brain sex doesn’t have anything to do with what society deems as appropriate attire or roles for either sex. Those things are social constructs to me, and are used to enforce the status quo and present power structures. Brain sex more fundamentally affects how one looks at the world and with which sex they fit in with. Clothing, jobs, skills, have nothing to do with it.

    I digress. Yes some feminists dislike, even hate, transsexuals or post-transsexuals. I’ve read some of their posts here and there, and they can be cold and cruel, but they’re reacting to the abuses of a male-centric society, and sadly women born transsexual get hit in the cross-fire. I can only say that I’m thankful that most women don’t take that position. Yes women born transsexual are excluded from some women born women site and groups, and I’d be lying if I said it didn’t hurt, because it does. Yes, indeed, most women born transsexual did not grow up as women, and when I’m in conversations with other women making reference to this experience or that experience I didn’t have, I listen empathetically and learn. This is a time, I believe for me to learn and be silent. I’ve also been able to share my own experiences, trials, sufferings, and successes, as I’ve found much more commonality with other women than differences, far more than I ever had with any man.

    I’m wandering a bit here, and for that, I apologize. I will close by simply saying that I will stand with other women, for that is what I am and with whom I relate. Does every other woman accept me? No, but then again, some women exclude those who are lesbian or straight, married or single, have had a baby or haven’t, works for a living or decides to stay at home, etc, etc. I choose to love and respect everyone equally, and if someone doesn’t like me, I’ll give them their space to go their way, but will also welcome them into my life if they change their mind or need help, for I will stand with other women. I never was transgender, but just passing by. They are male, wishing to appear as women and sometimes socially live as women, whereas I always was a woman, who simply corrected her anatomy. So, back to the UN letter, I thought it was fair and balanced, and in regards to the panty check comment, you are perfectly correct that people can already use the bathroom of choice, you just can press charges for being a guy in a women’s restroom.

  2. Trixel says:

    All these “brain sex” babbling. Where is the real proof for it??


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